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Roatan Insights © June 2001
News from the Honduras Bay Islands and North Coast
June
2001
By
Pierre Renaldo, The
CoastwatcherŠ
Summertime
and the livin' is easy.
Your
daddy's rich and your mama's good lookin'. And the weather
is hot and y'all feel like you're cookin'.
How's
that for plagiarism? What else would you expect in the tropics
in June? We learn to pace ourselves in these hot weather climates.
Building up a tolerance to the heat is something that just
seems to happen.
Note
the word tolerance because there is a difference between putting
your mind above discomfort and acclimatizing. We just don't
think about it much anymore. True enough when you exert yourself
a little and the sweat runs into you eyes, it is definitely
noticeable, but we have become acclimatized.
You
will too, so if you are sitting around up there in Seattle
or Vancouver or some other cool place where 85 degrees is
a record breaking heat wave, and you are just hanging out
some evening talking about coming here to live and you are
getting really excited, and then all of a sudden you think
..Oh!
but how will I ever get through those hot months?
Let
me assure you readers, the summer weather here is less oppressive
than in Florida. I can personally attest to that having lived
in good ol' FLA. for almost thirty years. And I mean all over
Florida, because I traveled that state from one end to the
other building on almost every major barrier island on the
west coast and multitudes of locations in the interior. There
is hardly a hotter place that I know of than being in the
woods of Central Florida in summer.
The
Bridges at Gravel Bay
A progress report
I
am very pleased to report that the abutment foundations for
the second new bridge at Gravel Bay are being excavated as
I write. At this moment it is a vast pool of very brackish
seawater but the little guy with the pump will show up any
day now and then we should see some real progress.
I
am amazed that the pump never seems to make any progress unless
we have an outgoing tide. But that little guy does not give
up. He is determined to pump all the water right out of the
Caribbean Sea if he has to. After all, it is his job that's
on the line if the water is not out of that hole by the time
los roccas technicians are ready for their rock heaving contest.
The
trucks are bringing in the fill that is needed to build the
approaches for bridge numero uno. Those big loaded dump trucks
are taking a big toll on the other rinky-dink wooden bridges
that they have to cross between Gravel Bay and the West Bay
Road, from whence they are carting the fill.
I
was behind one the other day and as he crossed an old wooden
bridge, the planking just sprung up in pieces, as the heavy
load was exerted on the span.
Wow!
They will have to replace all of those little old bridges
by the time these guys are finished. But it's a good way to
keep busy, as you go along destroying the existing bridges,
while you are building new ones. Unless the funds dry up.
Then
we would be back to the old days of driving through the drainage
creeks and seawater. That's when los roccas technology is
really useful. Throw in a bunch of roccas to keep from getting
stuck. Carumba! Are we smart here or what?
The
concrete work on bridge number one really looks good now that
the forms have been taken away. I am still wondering what
they will be using for the roadbed over the spans. I'm getting
a sneaking suspicion that it will be some kind of prefabricated
concrete, a big reinforced slab all ready to drop into place.
And we will have an instant bridge.
I
wonder how many guys it will take to lift it?
That's
what they did a few years ago when the collapsing bridge going
to the new courthouse, was about to give out. I went over
that way one day and bingo, there was a complete new bridge
in place, that would have taken months to build. But some
ingenious engineer had fabricated a whole completed bridge
that was just there already in the snap of a finger!
There
has been more paving around the big municipal pier where the
cruise ships come in. The reason I know about that is because
last Sunday morning when I got all the way into town after
bumping over the entire length of the coastal road, the barricades
were just being placed, along with many roccas to insure that
work would not be interrupted by anybody silly enough to want
to go into town on a Sunday morning.
Sooooo,
I just turned around and drove the seventeen extra miles around
the long way after being a quarter mile from the office. Oh
well! We can't stand in the way of progress. I wonder if that
road building company has ever given the public a little advance
notice about road closings.
It
would probably be the guy who stands out there waving the
red bandana.
"Hey
Gringo! We gonna close upa dis road in about two segundas."
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Great
News From globalnet.hn
Five
years go when I signed with Globalnet as my Internet service
provider, they informed me that all Internet access would
be charged as long distance calls by our wonderful telephone
company, Hondutel.
I
was assured however, that Globalnet was in the process of
erecting a transmitting tower on Roatan to circumvent this
expensive problem, and not to worry, that everything would
be just peachy by mid-summer.
"Si
Senior! No problemo!"
Well
I guess when you consider an interval of five years by Honduran
standards, that's really like the blink of an eye. Of course
our wonderful telephone company, Hondutel was behind the entire
delay, doing everything possible to hang on to those astronomical
long distance charges.
For
my office it amounts to between fifty and sixty bucks a month,
plus the monthly fee to Globalnet. It's a lot of dineros to
donate to the worlds worst telephone company, for providing
us with the epitome of mediocrity.
But
back to Globalnet. For the first time ever, this morning,
I accessed the Internet as a local call. Yep! Right here in
Coxen Hole. And even though I didn't have anything urgent
to send out, I dawdled around on the net just for the heck
of it. I wish those jerks at the telephone exchange could
have seen me flaunting that free time right in their kissers.
YOU
DIDN'T GET ME TODAY, YOU FLYSPECKS OF HUMANITY! YOU CLOWNS
OF THE WORLD!
I
salute you Globalnet. You have done it in spite of them. Nothing
has changed in my address as a result of this wonderful progress.
My e-mail address is still: elouis@globalnet.hn
Just
one more little aside and then I will be finished with this
month's Hondutel bashing. This is the month of the newest
"deadline" for the Honduran government to sell controlling
interest in the worlds worst telephone company, Hondutel.
As
you may recall, there have been very many previous deadlines
so I'm not very excited about this one. It will probably be
put off to the next presidential administration. Let the new
guy take the rap, Right? Isn't that the way of politics?
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Many
people have asked about what the educational standards of
the school system are like here. Some have been considering
coming for a trial period and putting their kids in school
on Roatan. I have only come to some conclusions by observing
and talking to students who have graduated from the public
school program, and a couple of the teachers.
Tell
me what you would think if your fourteen year old sixth grader
could not tell time or had never seen a map of the world during
his/her six years of schooling. One young man said the teacher
taught them to tell time from a digital clock but he never
learned how to tell time from a standard clock face, the kind
with the funny little hands that go around.
Another
had never seen a world map until she came into my office to
clean. She had never heard of, nor been exposed to the subject
of geography. I'm not kidding.
So
if any of you out there have geography books and toy clocks
that you want to get rid of, please bring them with you when
you come to visit. Please don't attempt to send anything,
because then the Aduana will want his cut, so just bring it
with you if you want to help out a little.
Gee!
It just dawned on me that the reason everybody is late in
this country is because they probably can't tell time, unless
they have a digital clock. And besides that they probably
don't know how to get from point "A" to point "B"
because they don't know anything about maps.
Unless
you can send your children to a good private bilingual school
you can rely on a very mediocre education for your kids if
they attend public schools on Roatan. My opinion exclusively,
and others may disagree.
Another
question I am asked much too frequently. Do I know a good
of any good rentals, and could I check into getting places
for people to stay.
Well
friends, as much as I would like to help, I'm not the guy
to ask. I have very little knowledge of the availability of
rental situations of any kind. Look on: www.roatanet.com
. There are all kinds of things available there. Ask their
discussion group. That's where you'll find the good places.
I'm not in the business of travel and accommodations. I build
things. So if you want something built, talk to me about it.
I do not do room rentals. Please don't ask.
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This month I will touch on a subject that I have not dwelled
on often, but those of you who plan to live here some day
should be aware of things that are different when you live
on an island. The subject is:
Corrosive
Atmosphere with High Humidity
I
will also include an excerpt from my book, "How to
Build Your Dream Home in a Third World Paradise"
which you can purchase by going to: http://www.eroatan.com/cgi-bin/pierre.cgi?books.
Now
let's get on with this months very important subject.
Highly
corrosive atmosphere with high humidity is a condition that
is likely to be a continuing problem when you are living on
a Caribbean island. If you live within a mile of a coastal
area, you will be in a corrosive atmosphere all the time.
The closer you are to the water, the more pronounced the problems
will be.
Here
are some measures you can take to help prevent rust. Make
sure all nail and screw heads are properly set and puttied
or caulked to protect them from the salt air. The elements
that come into play in order for rust to begin are moisture,
salt, and oxygen,
Any
metallic surfaces that will remain exposed to the atmosphere,
like joist hangers, tie downs and screw/bolt heads should
be coated with a rustproof system such as Rust-O-Leum or other
rust inhibiting coatings. These surfaces should be checked
periodically because some exposures are more prone to the
elements than others.
Anything
ferrous exposed to saltwater or salt atmosphere will deteriorate
very quickly. Saltwater will also have a deleterious effect
on non-ferrous metals like aluminum. They are subject to corrosion
and eventually become brittle. Aluminum cans thrown into saltwater
will completely dissolve in a very short time. Zinc-coated
(galvanized) surfaces will eventually yield to corrosive elements
if not properly maintained.
If
you intent to install a metal roof on your home then I recommend
the alloy coated products similar to Gal-va-lume or the factory
baked enamel coated metal roofs that are also back primed.
Be sure that any field cut edges of metal roofing are re-coated
with rust inhibitors.
Household
Interior.
Everything
gets rusty very quickly. We find rust spots on our stainless
steel cutlery if we do not dry our knives immediately after
they are washed and then put them away in a dry drawer, or
knife block. Everything metallic, ferrous metals, will rust
very quickly in this atmosphere.
Stainless
steel sinks, non-brass plumbing fixtures, furniture, appliances
etc. will need to be given special attention in order to avoid
problems with rust and corrosion. Any scratches on appliances
should be painted or waxed to prevent rusting.
Windows
and glass surfaces should be cleaned often. Salt spray left
on glass surfaces will actually etch the glass if not cleaned
off soon enough. Be sure that the water you use for cleaning
is potable, and does not contain a high concentration of salts.
Some water supplies on Roatan are heavily laden with salts,
and other corrosive minerals.
Be
sure to bring plenty of air-tight containers with you for
storage of your dry foods, such as grains and pastas. The
screw lids or pressure seals like the canning jars with the
gaskets and wire snaps on the tops are best. These are very
helpful in keeping your stored foods from becoming mildewed
or vermin infested. Just remember that you would do all the
things that are necessary for living on a boat. You boaters
out there will be at a distinct advantage.
In
some locations you will find salt crystals accumulating on
your household surfaces, like floors, furniture and countertops,
unless you have central air and you keep your windows closed
constantly.
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Now
we can get into another meaty subject. If you are contemplating
building a home in paradise or any other place, read the following
carefully.
I
have chosen this excerpt specifically because this is probably
the question I am asked most frequently and part of the silliest
discussions known to the scam artists of Roatan.
Q.
"What is the cost per square foot to build on Roatan?"
The
Great Cost Per Square Foot Scam
Sorting
through all the hype and baloney may well be one of the most
time consuming and confusing steps in the entire construction
process. The more people you get "quotes" from
the more confused you will become. Here are a few suggestions
to keep you from getting ulcers, apoplexy, hives, nervous
breakdowns, and hemorrhoids.
Limit
the number of people you will take bids from and you will
eliminate a good bit of nonsense from the process. Some
people come here believing the more the merrier and actually
seem to think that by getting twenty quotes they will come
up with that golden goose.
It
will be a goose for sure.
Do
your homework. Don't waste your time with the ballyhoo
boys. They will tell you anything you want to hear. Don't
fall for that old LOWBALL trick. You might think you found
a sleeper, but there just ain't no magic that makes this one
guy so much less expensive than the rest.
Forewarned
is forearmed. Let's go back to the basics. Get your specifications
and working drawings finalized. Make everybody quote on exactly
the same documents. No exceptions! If you are being quoted
on an idea that is one of a builders plans, make sure your
specks or your list of the essentials are all included. Site
work to turn key!
Q.
"What is the true cost per square foot of a building?"
Q. "How do you determine this magic number?"
The
true cost per square foot is a forensic number. It can only
be determined when a building is 100% completed and all costs
are calculated. If this type building is repetitive, a builder
then can determine that this particular building, when repeated,
will cost $xx.xx per square foot with updates for price increases
on materials, and differentials due to site conditions.
When
a cost per square foot is thrown at you without any plans
or specs, how can you know what it includes? Just a spoken
word without any documentation? That's a typical lowball tactic,
pie in the sky. The used car dealers invented that ploy to
keep people on their car lots.
Builder
Charlie quotes $52. sq. ft. Builder Rick quotes $55. sq. ft.
Great figures. But can you really buy what you want for those
kinds of numbers? And will the builders really ever produce
or finish a project on the basis of lowball sq. ft. quotes?
Q.
"WHAT IS THE TRUE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A BUILDING?"
Q.
"WHAT AREAS SHOULD BE INCLUDED?"
THIS
IS WHERE THE SCAM ARTISTS WILL GET YOU.
LET'S
SAY YOUR PLAN INCLUDES:
*
A SCREENED IN PORCH ACROSS THE ENTIRE REAR OF YOUR HOUSE.
* THERE IS A SECOND FLOOR WIDOW'S WALK WITH A LARGE OBSERVATION
DECK ADJACENT TO IT.
Q.
"Should all these areas be included in the square
footage calculations?"
Of
course. Everything under the roof has to be included. It all
costs a great deal of money to produce.
There
just ain't no such thing as a free lunch! Nobody is going
to take a loss to build you a house!
Q. "Is there such a thing as a uniform cost per square
foot that can be applied to any size or shaped building with
unknown spec to boot?"
A.
Of course not!
If
you believe in the tooth fairy you will believe that one.
How could anybody be so naive? But people fall for it all
the time. And the reason for that is, they want to believe
it. Remember the con artist's stock in trade is to "Concoct
a story to incite greed." When you fall for it you're
suckered.
It
is not physically possible for a one-story building and a
three-story building to have the same cost per square foot.
There can be a multitude of variables that will make two one
story buildings of exactly the same size cost radically different
amounts per square foot.
Example
of what the cost per square foot includes.
Let's
presume your specs include the following: A concrete block
house on monolithic slab; wood frame interior walls; screened-in
porch across the back; stucco over exterior block; drywall
and insulation; fiberglass roof shingles; aluminum windows
and sliding glass doors; central A/C; ceramic tile floors
throughout; ceramic shower stalls (2); attached two car garage
with two 7'x10' steel overhead doors including operators;
European cabinets in kitchen and baths with laminate counter
tops; painting of interior and exterior surfaces.
That
is a typical Florida style house, which is very appropriate
in the tropics. Now if you include an allowance for site preparation
and driveway, you can get a quote on the construction costs.
Take the bottom line and divide all the square footage under
roof into the dollar amount for the average cost per square
foot. Yes, you have to include the garage even though it is
not living area, and the porches and decks and patios.
Case
History
Mr.
P. came into my office with a 'house plan', which was pencil
lines drawn on graph paper. It was in quarter inch scale he
told me, and he would like a price on it as soon as possible.
After briefly looking over the 'plan' I could see many omissions
and errors that would make the house very cumbersome if built
according to his layout. I later gave him a very general ballpark
figure, suggesting that he bring a detailed plan back when
he had finalized his ideas.
Several
months went by and I had completely forgotten about Mr. P.
Then I received a phone call from him. Would I be able to
give him a quote on his plan he wondered? He had hired a designer
and had working drawings. Could he drop the plan off this
afternoon? "Certainly", I agreed.
His
idea consisted of a two-story house, a master suite with a
large bath on the second floor. The first floor had a kitchen
and family room, living room, formal dining room, two bedrooms
and one bath. The family room opened onto a large screened
porch. There was also a screened-in porch of the same size,
directly over the ground floor porch, off the master suite
on the second floor.
He
had specified oak parquet flooring throughout the entire first
floor and carpeting on the stairs and the floor of the master
bedroom. The master bath had a glass block shower, a bidet
and marble top vanity. The baths were to have ceramic tile
floors.
When
Mr. P. came back he was shocked at the price I quoted for
his project. He promptly announced that builder Jack had quoted
him $61. per sq. foot over the phone and he had to go with
such a bargain price. He thanked me and left.
A
week later he was back in my office, out of breath and most
apologetic. Could we talk about eliminating a few things on
his plan to lower the price a little? I asked why he did not
go with the bargain price builder Jack offered.
"That
price was for his stock model one story house that he builds
for everybody and it did not include any porches, bidet, glass
block, oak flooring or ceramic tile floors. So his price really
turned out to be much more than $61. And far more than we
can afford. We need you to recommend eliminating a few items
from our plans to get us into our price range. Your numbers
came the closest to what we can spend.
The
Moment of Truth
The Great Equalizers:
The Outline Specification, and Detailed Working Drawings.
This
is the best and quickest method of getting to the true price.
All the chatter and boasting about lowest price per sq. ft.
will evaporate when you have a detailed list of your requirements
and a good set of detailed working drawings. Here are some
hard questions you should ask when you are getting price quotes
*What
specifically does the price include if you are using a builders
plans?
*Can
you see a written material list ?
*Can
you see a sample working drawing?
*Are
the plans in metric or modular?
*Who
will supply the plans?
*If
using the plans of a builder, is the cost of the plans included
in the price or will you have to pay extra?
*Can
you review all completed construction documents before you
sign?
*Does
the quote include all the essentials from your list of "the
10 most important things you want in your house?"
*Will
all the work conform to U.S. Building Codes?
*What
is the total length of time required to complete this project?
*Will
there be a specific date for completion?
*How
and when will payments be required?
*Will
I have choices of fixtures? Colors?
*What
appliances are included?
*Will
contracts, specs, and plans be written by the builder, and
will they be in English or Spanish or both?
Most
local contractors will not be able to produce many positive
answers to these questions. They will be trying to give you
the glad hand and big pearly tooth smile while trying to talk
their way around their lack of documents and absence of knowledge.
If they can't put an agreement into writing you are in for
many surprises if you decide to go ahead with one of them
anyway.
Remember,
many of these people have fewer that six grades of education,
and a surprising number of them cannot read or write.
I
have found construction materials to cost more here on Roatan,
than in Florida, by about thirty percent. Don't forget there
is a 12% national sales tax on everything you purchase in
Honduras. That is a lot of money!
Labor
is cheaper by the day here than in Florida, but productivity
in the Bay Islands is meager by comparison to anywhere in
the U.S.A. You give up the presumed advantage of 'low' labor
costs to the lack of productivity and craftsmanship. The workers
here take a long time to produce little.
NIGHTMARE
ALLEY
When
I opened my office in Coxen Hole a few years ago, one of my
first visitors was a very likable young man, outgoing and
friendly. He introduced himself as a builder and if he could
be believed, the foremost and most knowledgeable on the island,
and probably the whole universe. There were many more overtures
and handshakes, pearly tooth smiles and a little back slapping
before he left.
A
very nice guy who claimed he could do anything, and since
he also owned some prime land with a view of the whole island,
he would like to come back and take me on a tour some time
soon.
A
few months later I was looking at a project with a friend
when a man came roaring onto the property where we were standing
talking. His jeep made a cloud of dust as he skidded to a
stop a few feet away. To say he was excited would be an understatement.
He ran up to my friend and breathlessly asked for immediate
help in some kind of emergency. I was not intended to hear
the nature of this emergency since I was not aquatinted with
the man and he obviously wanted to keep it secret.
My
friend asked me to accompany him and we headed to a construction
site several miles to the east. Upon arriving I saw an 'island
rustic' octagonal two story house, occupying a place on a
steep hillside. The construction was wood frame, but it was
most unusual. There were no door or window openings visible
anywhere. The siding was covering the entire outside of the
building except for one opening on the lowest level.
One
other very noticeable irregularity was the strange angle of
the walls to the downhill side of the structure. Everything
was leaning precariously! The building was in a death-spiral
that usually precedes collapse. Massive structural failure
had occurred.
Several
people were inside the building nailing on cross bracing and
there were many more braces and shoring being applied to the
exterior walls in attempt to forestall the toppling of the
entire house. These efforts paid off and collapse was avoided,
but when I viewed the interior I could not believe what I
was seeing.
There
was no door or widow openings provided for, anywhere in the
house. The exterior walls were framed with 2x4's on 24"
centers and the floor joists were 2x8's, spanning over sixteen
feet. There were no structural headers framed into the bearing
walls anywhere. Little wonder the building began to spiral
as the weight on the lower structure was increased by the
added framing members above.
I
was later told that most buildings on the island were constructed
in this same manner; that the window and door openings were
"cut in" wherever you wanted them after the siding
was completed. No structural headers were used anywhere in
the buildings no matter how large the wall openings were!
Wow!
No wonder that place was falling over. And not too surprisingly;
that suave young builder, Mr. Pearly Tooth Smile' that visited
me in my office months earlier was the prime contractor of
this disastrous project.
Solution:
Be sure you check the credentials and the work of anyone you
decide to do business with here. Don't take their word for
anything because they all know everything about everything.
Six grades of school here must make you a total expert. Many
people get excited when they hear that magical lowball cost
per square foot, and forget to ask the guy is he has had any
experience building anything. Make him show it to you.
You
may even be unlucky enough to get 'Mr. Pearly Tooth Smile',
with a slap on the back thrown in as a bonus. I later learned
the he did not own the land he claimed to be his either. It
belonged to his "uncle who allows him to sign the papers
and collect the money." Ha!
A
few months ago a man wrote to me asking about a "contractor"
he had hired here. He thought he had found a real sucker,
a dummy who would make some mistakes and build him a house
for super cheap. But his great find was floundering and would
not communicate with him regarding the finances that had been
expended on his project. The person he had trusted to build
his house would not account for the monies or how they were
spent. Nor was there any other communication forthcoming.
So who is the dummy in this picture?
The
owner was stuck, having spent a lot of bucks on the uncompleted
house. I wonder what the final cost per super cheap square
footsie was on that project?
And guess what? That was the first time that the so-called
"Contractor" ever attempted to build a house. He
knew absolutely nothing about construction. But he does know
the con business, and he has since burned several other people
until he skipped the island. I'll bet he's in Las Vegas having
a ball.
Like
Mr. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute!"
Do
I have a deal for you!
That price you have been dreaming about. You knew it was out
there, it was just a matter of shopping around until you found
it. You might even get me to negotiate a little. A little
horse trading, ya know?
If you want a house for cheap come to me. I can do one for
you for under $25. per magical square footsie. My plans, my
specs, my rules, nothing in writing, just my word, a handshake
(the slap on the back will be gratis) and Roatan "building
codes". How can you beat a number like that?
See
how easy it is? If I'm off by a few bucks no problemo, right?
Now
here's a little quiz for fun. We will use two geometric shapes;
one is a square and the other a circle, both with the exact
same areas. Here's the question.
Q.
"Presuming these two shapes were houses, both one-story
homes, built on a monolithic slab, with identical specs, which
one do you think would have the highest cost per square foot?
Hmmmmm?"
a. The square
b. The circle
Q. "If there are two houses with the exact same length
perimeters, one rectangular and one "L" shape with
identical specs, which do you think would cost the most to
build?"
a.
The rectangle
b. The "L" shape
All
you have to do to answer is put the letters in the subject
slot and send.
Example:
Q. 1. d Q. 2. c
Send your answers to: elouis@globalnet.hn
You can also order your $25. per square footsie "dream
home" at the same time and at the same address. Cash
or certified checks, U.S. funds only.
Just
multiply the square footsies in your dream house by $24.98
and send me the money!
Do
you really believe there is such a thing as a uniform cost
per square foot that can be applied to any kind of house with
any kind of specs?
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How
many of you have heard about the condos that were built at
one of our popular beaches, completely finished, furniture
moved in, ready for occupancy and guess what?
There
was not a single toilet in the entire project. They forgot
to put in toilets! Sixteen months under construction and nobody
ever noticed not even the plumber.
Maybe it's because lots of people here still have outhouses.
They are not used to seeing toilets inside a house so to them
nothing was amiss.
"Stupid
Gringos always want somethin' special. Wad da ya spect, everting
perfec?"
I know some people who do not think the foregoing is a very
funny story.
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Every
month I give you the current exchange rate of the U.S. dollar
to Lempiras. The exchange quoted by the international community
is a few cents more than what the local banks of Honduras
are paying for dollars. The rate on Roatan as of June 1, 2001
is:
$1.
U.S. = LPS. 15.39
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There is some unusual stuff coming up in the next few issues
of Coastwatcher: Caribbean West. You can always find current
articles about daily life here, just little incidents I experience
and see, or hear about. It is often amusing and occasionally
serious. See it weekly on: www.eroatan.com
On
a more serious note: every once in a while I hear of a good
deal on land. Just this afternoon, the furniture maker from
across the street came into my office with an escatura publica
(deed) on 4.25 acres of land in Coxen Hole, which he needs
to sell urgently. He quoted me $4,500. per acre. A nice piece
of land for under $20,000. because he needs money quickly.
You can deal with him direct if you are interested. Just let
me know.
The land is adjacent to the school teachers colonia going
west on the paved road out of Coxen Hole.
So
that wraps it up for this month.
Comments
or questions?
Drop
me a line:
Pierre
elouis@globalnet.hn
By
Pierre Renaldo, Mountain Coastal S.A,. General Contractors,
Construction Management and Construction Consultants.
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